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Leedsfa.co.uk are launching the first of a new series of website
features with Smith's Solutions, the Leeds FA’s questions and
answer session with Referees Instructor,
Fred Smith |
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So, if you see a game over the weekend and
wondered why the referee gave a certain decision or if there’s a
simple refereeing question that has been bugging you for ages then
send your question to... |
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| QUESTION
( May 2008) |
| Hello Fred |
| I was
just wondering what your opinions are on parents
with 'touchline rage'. |
| How do
you think it can affect the kids' performance and desire
to play? And what punishment if any should be
dished out for repeat offenders? |
| Do you
have certain policies? |
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Derek
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello Jamie |
| Thanks for your message, here
are a few facts and thoughts. |
| The FA, through the County
hand book, have quite a lot of regulations regarding the
code of conduct, for players, coaches, teams and
officials. If everybody does what they are
supposed to, life would be lovely, but it doesn't work
out like that as some parents become obsessed with their
own child's performance. |
| Teams, through their coaches,
have to inform their players and parents what is
expected of them |
| ie. show respect to everybody
connected to the game, and behave in a fair manner at
all times |
| Anything reported that
breaches the regulations is dealt with by the FA, either
at county or district level. |
| The referee is the one who has
to deal with touchline problems in the first instance,
usually comments in unsuitable language, developing into
abuse, if not dealt with quickly. |
| He has various options, from
having the offender removed (depending on the situation)
if he/she refuses to be quiet. To suspending
the game, or even abandoning, and reporting the matter
to county FA. |
| I don't think the parent helps
the child by being this way, and some clubs and teams
have club rules to the effect that the child of the
parent at fault will not be picked for the team
until behaviour improves. I think that will
work in most cases, because, in the worst
cases the FA can fine or suspend the club, where
referees keep getting abuse etc., and then the whole
team suffer because of one or two individuals |
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| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Apr 2008) |
| Hi Fred |
| I was
refereeing a game last weekend and wanted to know if you
have known a game with so many penalties awarded to one
side. |
| I awarded
4 penalties to one side. Is this some kind of record of
is it me thinking it may be a record. |
| Your
thoughts would be interesting. |
| Yours in
Sport |
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Derek
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello Derek |
| That's not bad four penalties, |
| I never kept any records
myself, but I can remember giving three in a game on a few
occasions, and one was retaken three times (goalie
moving etc ) in one of those games - Does that count I
wonder ? |
| A good point though, and I
hope someone who keeps this kind of record (and quite a
lot of referees do) will mail in with their own tales on
the subject. |
| I like penalties !, could be
(should be ?) one at almost every corner I watch on
the television. |
| It would stop all this rubbish
that goes on now and make the defenders look for the
ball, instead of wrestling with the attackers. |
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| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Apr 2008) |
| Dear Fred |
| Not a
question as such, just after your thoughts on the
subject of ankle strapping... |
| For some
reason, there is an almost fashionable trend for players to
wear ankle strapping. In the main, this is white. |
| Just to
go back a couple of seasons, it was introduced that
undershorts had to be the same colour of the player's
outer shorts. Then more recently, the under shirts
had to be the same colour as the player's shirts.
(all of course if the under garments are visible).
So this takes me back on to ankle strapping and
especially those players who seen to practically
obliterate the main colour of their socks. |
| Now I
know it's not dangerous, so why get involved, but do you
believe that there will be a Law amendment to cover this
matter. |
| Regards |
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David Bransby
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Thanks for the question David |
| I suppose the ankle strapping
will be the same as all the other things - If somebody
complains (wouldn't be a manager would it ?) over an
incident caused by "mistaken leg
identification" that affects a result, then the
great body of FIFA will decide all strapping should be
the same as shin guards, under the socks at all times,
and that will be a bit more for the new referees to put
into their pre-match inspection. |
| But don't hold your breath
! This will be the same as referees at all levels
being allowed to wear "coloured shirts" when a
clash between teams wearing dark (or even black) shirts
happens. |
| Could be some time before it
gets into the laws ! |
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| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Feb 2008) |
| Dear Fred |
| Can you
clear this one up |
| Off side
or not off side if it comes off a defender, or passed
back by a defender. |
| I blew
for off side when a player flicked on a pass, he didn't
mean to it was just too high to head. |
| I said
when the lad played it, (about 4 yds away) the
forward was off side. |
| The fact
it hit a defender on the head on its way doesn't render
the forward on side, or does it? |
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Referee
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Offside is judged from when a
player of the same side plays the ball. |
| If it strikes an opponent on
it's way forward that doesn't alter the decision,
but if an opponent controls the ball and plays it with a
deliberate movement then he becomes the last to play the
ball, and so no offside. |
| A deliberate pass by a player
towards his own goal can never result in offside,
even if it goes to an opponent in an offside position. |
| From your message , it
seems as though you gave the right decision. |
| Hope this is of helps |
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| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Feb 2008) |
| Dear Fred |
| Today we
had a goal disallowed, in the most bizarre
circumstances. |
| Our
opponents wanted to make a substitution, the ref agreed,
then waved play on. We took the throw in, and subsequently
scored a brilliant goal, 20-30 seconds after the throw
in. |
| The ref
gave the goal, allowed the players to celebrate, then
blew his whistle and disallowed the goal. |
| His
explanation was that our opponents had 12 men on the
pitch, as he assumed the player to be subbed had left
the field, but he had not. |
| We gained
no advantage from his mistake, he allowed play to
continue, and admitted to me afterwards that he had made
a shambles of the situation. |
| Three
players were booked for dissent, and one player was sent
off, as a result of their frustration. |
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Confused Tingley
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Thanks Sarah |
| I'm not surprised you are
confused, it's a very unusual situation, so let's see
what we can make of it. |
| The substitution has not been
made correctly (ie one player off before the
other enters the field) and one team have 12 men, so
the goal cannot be allowed, |
| If the referee waved the sub
on this was not a signal to take the throw-in and then he should have stopped play (and
cancelled the goal) until the subbed player
left the field. |
| This seems to be the logical
explanation but, if the referee has waved play on before
the sub was completed, then he has made a serious error,
and having watched a goal scored, has then realized his
mistake and taken play back to the substitution point. |
| Referees, like players,
sometimes make mistakes and the fact he admitted this
afterwards shows he has learnt from it, but doesn't
excuse the players who get cautioned and sent off for
dissenting with decisions which they think are wrong. |
| It's usually the team with the
extra man who lose the advantage, but the other way
around this time. |
| You didn't say if the
"goal" affected the result, I hope not. |
| I think everybody can learn
from this and hope it's been of help to you and your
team |
| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Dec 2007) |
| Dear Fred |
| I
remember the pass back rule coming in some years
ago, it was my understanding that this was to stop time
wasting especially towards the end of the game. |
| A by
product of this rule which quickly came into play
was the use of a defenders body to shield the ball out
of play. |
| This
has almost the same effect as a back pass giving the
ball to the keeper, and although the keeper is limited
to where he can play the ball (6 yard Area) he also
can't be challenged. |
| In my
opinion this shielding has got too excessive and
aggressive and in most other areas of the pitch a
free kick would be awarded. |
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I feel if this was deemed
an offence, (to shield the ball so vigorously
'OBSTRUCTION' ), unless the defender had put a
touch on the ball, the initial reason for
bringing the back pass rule in would be upheld making
the game more offensive. |
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Yours frustrated
DAGGER |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Thanks Joanne |
| The word obstruction has been
replaced in the laws with impeding, and just like the
old obstruction , there is no offence if you are"
playing the ball "by shielding it within playing
distance, which is what happens when following the ball
to the goal line |
| It is all down to the referee to
decide how much is shielding , how much is pushing, and
if any body contact occurs, and is the ball always in
playing distance |
| The goalkeeper is not allowed to
handle the ball from a deliberate kick to him, or a
throw -in, from a member of his own team, but he is not
restricted from playing the ball with his feet anywhere
on the field and , in normal play, can handle the ball only
in his own penalty area |
| I agree with your feeling
frustrated, especially at the corner flag situation when
time is used up, and perhaps one day it may be classed
an offence |
| Who knows, we are in the hands
of FIFA |
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| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Dec 2007) |
| Dear Fred |
| I read
with interest the correspondence you have received
about added time at the end of the game.
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| I
recently witnessed a ref add nearly 15 MINS INJURY
TIME to the end of an under 19 league game last
month.Neither trainer had been on the pitch to attend an
injury and as the game was played at an NCE Ground the
pitch was enclosed so the ball didn't take an overly
long time to get back to the keepers or on to the field
of play for any restarts.
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| The
linesman informed the manager of one team that they
had played 90 secs of injury time.He then decided to
make a sub which, as they were leading 2-1 was an
obvious thing to do. The ref decided to play an extra 13
mins.
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| When
asked why he played so long, he said he stopped the
watch whilst he was talking to each player,which he did
after every foul was committed.
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This surely can't be
correct as it was his choice to lecture every player
even after the smallest incident.
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For your information he
never played 30 secs injury time in the 1st half.
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It was an unbelievable
performance from the ref who really really wanted to be
the centre of attention.
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Your comments would be
appreciated. |
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Regards
Football Fan
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Thanks for your message, and it is
hard to understand the thinking of this referee |
| We know he is the sole judge of time
and has to add time on for stoppages, but if you class a
stoppage as every time the ball is out of play, you
would take nearly three hours to get ninety minutes of
play in and he should have added something to the first
half if that was his way of calculating the time to add |
| Perhaps he will read this and learn
from it, and that fifteen minutes sounds quite a
lot of time, but he doesn't have to explain why he
decided how much time to add |
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| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Nov 2007) |
| Dear Fred |
| My son
was playing in goals for his local under 13s team
and palmed a cross away for a corner, the Referee
unbelievably gave a penalty, saying that a defender had
handballed. |
| The
goalkeeper questioned the refs decision and the ref
then sent the keeper off saying that he had swore at
him. This resulted in a £35 fine and a 5 match ban. |
| These
matches included 2 cup semi finals. |
| The
next evening whilst watching Manchester Utd on TV we
watched Wayne Rooney swear at the referee throughout the
game for the full 90 mins, The outcome was not even a
yellow card. |
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My son
gets £5 a week pocket money, having to pay 7 weeks
pocket money to cover his fine and seeing Rooney earning
£100k per week and commit the same offence and get away
with it has resulted in my son quitting the game
completely. If there is no consistency with refs
and one rule for one and another rule for others how do
you expect our young players to want to embrace the
beautiful game.
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Yours sincerely
Level 2 coach and disillusioned
dad |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Thanks "disillusioned dad
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| I could refer you to some of the
previous answers given regarding language and the
television, |
| Most people know my views on what
could cut out all the "language "...
sin bin... blue card... free
kick... fine the club... deduct
points... etc. |
| It could be done, but the
"powers that be" don't seem to want to do
enough to control decline in standards that is spoiling
what is supposed to be "sport " |
| Now, I am presuming that the
referee was officially appointed to the game. If
that is so then your son was wrong to question the
referee in such a way that got him sent off, but
it begs a couple of questions ?? |
| Why didn't the referee
caution , or send off, the player he said handled the
ball ?? Did you appeal the send off ? |
| Why do the FA and the
league managers allow a different tolerant level at the
top that doesn't apply at the bottom, as we can only
teach referees to use the laws as they stand |
| "Language" is a send
off offence full stop |
| Until there are some
other "in between " punishments introduced,
that is the only way for the referee to deal with the
offence - Not a lot of help for your son , but I
would urge him to play again and if he doesn't
make the top, why not become a referee ?, and help to
make some other lads game enjoyable ??? |
| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Sep 2007) |
| Dear Fred |
| I
reffed a kids u11 game last week. The pitch is
on a slope and next to a road. |
| There
was only 1 match ball, so when the ball went down
the hill, I stopped my watch and added time on a the
end. |
| When I
added the time on, 1 of the mangers was complaining
that you are not allowed to add time on for the ball
going out of play. |
| I
don't understand this, because somebody could easily
smash the ball 50 yards and use up time, if you are
winning. |
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Regards
Simon |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello Simon, |
| The answer is that the referee is in
charge of the time, and keeping a record of the game. |
| Some leagues state that two balls
must be provided, which helps to keep the "standing
time" to a minimum. |
| Any incidents of time wasting by
deliberately kicking the ball out of play can be dealt
with, but in this instance it would only be a matter of
adding a few minutes - Quite acceptable, bearing in mind
the recommended playing time for the age group, (30 mins
each way) |
| But, it's only the referees opinion
that counts, the managers don't need to be told
why you've added time. |
| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Sep 2007) |
| Dear Fred |
| A
forward goes into the area with the ball, he is
fouled, the referee rightly awards a penalty. |
| The
forward is injured and the trainer comes on to see
to the injury, a bit of magic water and the player is ok
again. |
| The
same forward is the penalty taker for the team, but
the referee insists he has to leave the field of play,
but we want him to take the penalty, what should happen? |
| The
defending team gain an advantage as our usual
penalty taker is not allowed to take the spot kick, how
can this be correct? |
| I feel
that if a player is injured and receives treatment as a
result of an infringement on him, then he should be
allowed to remain on the field, |
| Could you
please clarify. |
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Regards
Steve |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello Steve, |
| I have to agree with you that it
looks unfair on your team as Law (5) states that players
can't come back on until the game restarts. |
| However, the referee is bound by the
FIFA instructions and the LOAF so he has no option but
to carry them out. |
| It would be covered if the law
perhaps stated "Only where the game has been
stopped solely for the injury" this would
cover all stops where a kick is awarded. |
| I have passed this on to HQ and, who
knows ?, it may effect a change for the good of the
game. |
| It also begs the question "What
do you do if the player in question is unable to
continue ?" |
| Answer !.. Have more
than one penalty taker ! |
| I'll let you know if anything comes
of it |
| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( July 2007) |
| Dear Fred |
| I
wonder if you are aware of any written rules
regarding the tying back of long hair. |
| One of
my players (he's 15) insists he does not need to tie
back his hair or wear a band, as it does not affect his
vision. |
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Myself and my coaches beg to differ, but
would like some clarification. |
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Regards
Sarah |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello Sarah, |
| Thanks for your query. There
are no hard and fast rules laid down by the FA, |
| The only thing that covers this is
the "danger" part of law 4... |
| The Referee on the day can decide
that long flowing hair is a danger to others, and
possibly to himself, and then the player would have to
"make it safe" to the referees satisfaction. |
| You could make a team rule about
"dress and behaviour" in the interests of
safety, but be careful of the EU Human Rights
angle |
| Sorry I can't be more helpful, let's
hope you get the right referee every week. |
| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( June 2007) |
| Hi
Fred |
| Playing
a 7aside game, an opponent was yellow carded and
‘sin binned’ for 5 minutes after swearing at the
referee, once off the pitch he swore further at the
referee resulting in a red card and dismissal of the
player from any further part in the game.
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| Our
opponents now played with 6 men, however when the
five minutes were up, the referee allowed them to
replace the ‘sent off’ player with a substitute and
finished the game with seven men. |
| The
referee stated he sent the player off whilst not on
the field of play and therefore when the five minutes
’sin bin’ were up the team could bring on a player.
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| Please
may I ask you to clarify this rule as our opponents
were not penalised for the sending off. |
| Our
opponents simply had a player ‘sin binned’ for 5
minutes even though they suffered a dismissal. |
| I have
heard of this happening in the tunnel after a game
or at half time but only in an 11 aside game, never seen
it in a 7 or 5 aside game.
Regards
Garry |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello Gary, |
| Thanks for your question but you
don't say if this was a league game or
friendly/charity/cup match... Whatever,
there are things wrong |
| To send a player to the sin-bin the
referee should show a blue card (two blue cards equal a
send off) |
| The offence of swearing at the
referee is a red card and a sending off which should be
reported to county |
| Yellow cards are not to be used in
small-sided games |
| The player sent off can't be
replaced by a substitute, as in all sections of football |
| This will apply to all local games,
UNLESS ! (I can't think they would ) the WRCFA have
sanctioned a competitions rules that allow such a
substitution |
| So the referee (was he
"officially appointed" and registered ?) needs
to check his FA rules for small-sided games |
| Hope this helps |
| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( November 2006) |
| Hi
Fred |
| Here's
a good one for you |
| Recently,
I witnessed a referee blow his whistle after a defender
caught the ball from an opposing defenders clearance
kick. |
| When
questioned he explained he had been waiting for an
advantage to develop from a foul to the same team as the
defender who caught the ball. He gave a free kick to the
defenders team. |
| Whilst
I can understand the logic the impression given was one
where the opposing centre half directed the referees
decision. |
| Later
in the game an attacker was clipped as he went passed a
defender, the ref put his whistle in his mouth, the
attacker took on the next defender, got in a tussle,
lost out, when I looked at the ref again he was taking
the whistle out of his mouth. |
| I felt
the attacker should have picked up the ball !! |
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All the best, its a tough
job, applying the laws and keeping everyone happy!
Regards
Garry
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello Gary, |
| The situation you describe is a
little confusing as you didn't identify which
"defender" got the free kick |
| So, assuming it was the one who
caught the ball, (the centre half ?) I can see
where the impression that he was making the decision
would come from this gives the idea of a
"soft" referee, even though he's just trying
to be fair to both sides |
| It's the same when you give a
"close" offside just as three defenders all
shout "offside ref", and the attackers say
" he's only blown because they shouted" and
then they try the same tactic at the other
end..............and the game suffers |
| I've had the "picking up
" happen on occasions and always gave a kick
for handball, to stop players making dcisions BEFORE
I'd stopped play |
| In the second part you mention, the
referee had probably gone past the " two or three
seconds" allowed to reverse an advantage BUT ??
because of his earlier decision there was the
possibility of the player picking up the ball , and
claiming the kick |
| So the advice is be in charge, make
your own decisions, and DON'T LET players try to RUN
your game (you could put RUIN there I suppose) |
| Thanks again, it's a good teaching point |
| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( July 2006) |
| Hi Fred |
| I really enjoy
reading your Q & A on the Leeds FA website but would
like to raise a point about your answer for the April
2006 question |
| Sorry to quote
law but Law 12 - Fouls & Misconduct states |
| DIRECT FREE
KICK |
| A direct free
kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player
commits any of the following six offences in a manner
considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or
using excessive force: |
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kicks or attempts to kick an opponent |
| The Law does not
ask Referees to interpret whether the action of a player
is intentional (with the exception of handball).
He only has to consider whether the offence was
considered to be careless, reckless or using excessive
force, therefore the answer to Johnny’s enquiry should
be: |
| “No, the
decision would be a direct free kick for, as you stated
in your question, kicking an opponent, punishable by a
penalty kick as the offence was committed inside his own
penalty area. |
| The referee
may only interpret dangerous play when contact is NOT
made. |
| I hope you
do not mind me posting this amendment to you. |
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| Best regards, |
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Lee McCormack |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello, Lee, |
| Thanks for your comments,
but you have ignored the word "accidental" in
your view of the situation , and if you awarded a
penalty, you would also have to send off for serious
foul play, as that is what kicking an opponent becomes. |
| When a player attempts
to kick the ball by raising his foot too high, it only
becomes dangerous if another player is near enough to be
put in danger by the high action. |
| This is especially true
of the "scissors" kick. If contact with
the other player happens, then the referee is required(
law 5 ) to make a decision based on his opinion of the
danger involved, and because this is accidental he can
only award an" indirect " kick restart. |
| I do hope that you
don't make decisions in your games based on what you
have said in your email (and that goes for any other
unsure referees who may read this) and would
recommend you to read the FA learning book "Advice
on the Application of the Laws of the Game" (page
13 is relative), suppplied by WRFCA in the welcome packs
for new referees |
| I'm sure they would
supply one if you passed before the welcome packs
started. |
| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( July 2006) |
| One thing
which has been bugging me for a while now |
| On a few occasions
in different games last season an opponent trying to
receive the ball shouts "My ball" or
"Leave it" |
| Each occasion
I have given and indirect free kick against them for
unsporting behaviour a couple of teams have been saying
things like "Thats an old Law now, and you can
shout what you want" |
| I don't
believe this is true, as I've heard nothing, could
you please clarify cos it's still seeking to gain and
advantage |
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| James Mackintosh |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Hello James, thanks for
your question |
| There is nothing in law
to stop a player shouting a name or anything else, BUT !
if he gains an advantage with his words, he offends, and
you have to judge if an opponent was affected by the
shout, or denied a chance to play the ball. |
| If so, and you decide
this is Unsporting Behaviour, then the indirect kick
should be the award. |
| A caution /yellow card
is the punishment for Unsporting Behaviour. |
| It all rests on your
opinion of how it affects the game at the time of the
shout |
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| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Apr 2006) |
| If a defender kicks
an opponent accidentally in the face in the penalty area with
his feet high up would I be correct to award a indirect
free kick ? |
| Would this be
dangerous play ? |
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Thanks Johnny |
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| FRED'S
ANSWER
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| Yes, as the action is
accidental and not deliberate. |
| The decision would be
dangerous play, with the indirect free kick restart. |
| Make sure you check the
possiblity of bleeding if the injury is serious enough |
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| Cheers Fred |
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| QUESTION
( Dec 2005) |
| Hi Fred |
| What would
happen if the ball had crossed the line for a goal
which was indicated by a neutral assistant but the
referee missed signal |
| Then in the
same move the ball went to the other end and a goal
was scored or the defending goalkeeper brought down the
attacking player in the penalty area
Cheers Paul |
|
| FRED'S
ANSWER
|
| The answer is that a
well instructed assistant would have kept his flag up
until his opposite number also flagged to the referee |
| Or somebody, possibly
from the team that was attacking the goal in question,
called the referees' attention to the raised flag(s) |
| Then, on the assistants
information, the goal would be awarded. |
| Nothing that happened
regarding play or other restarts would count, BUT any
MISCONDUCT would be punished, without changing the
restart , i.e. kick-off |
| It is important that
referees and assistants work together and support each
other when this situation arises. That is where
good pre-match instructions are essential |
| Cheers Fred |
|
| QUESTION
( Sep 2005) |
| I finished
the training last year and have since refereed a number
of games, however there is one aspect of the offside
rule that I am still unsure about. – It raised its
head again on Sunday and I would appreciate your
clarification of the rule please. |
| Attacking team
in defending team’s goal area, attacker in possession
of ball some 7 yards from goal line |
| In a line with
him are 2 other attacking players and all 3 are
nearer to defending team’s goal line than any of
defending team except for defending keeper (note NOT in
front of ball). |
|
Attacker shoots, goal keeper
parries, but the 2 other members of attacking team have
followed up, one puts rebounded ball into back of net. |
| When the ball
was played (the shot) attackers team-mates were not in
an offside position. |
| Shot parried
by keeper into path of another of attacking team who
scores. |
| Is this a goal
or is he offside. |
| |
|
Craig Gannon |
|
| FRED'S
ANSWER
|
| Nice to hear from you
Craig |
| In the situation
described the players are all onside, because they are
behind the ball the whole time |
| The parry by the goalie
does not alter this |
| If one of the attackers
had been in front of the ball when it was shot at
goal, then he would be offside when the ball was
parried - If he played it |
| In the new "Laws
of Association Football" book you'll find lots of
diagrams and questions & answers, all on law 11 |
| Cheers Fred |
|
| QUESTION
( Jun 2005) |
| Are the laws
of the game different in five a side or small sided
competitions as regards shin pads |
| |
| Paul |
|
|
| FRED'S
ANSWER
|
| No, the laws of
eleven-a-side apply with regard to players equipment and
safety, unless the competition rules have been modified
and passed by the WRCFA (perhaps for some"soft
ball" special competition) but the safety of
players is treated just the same as normal, and should
come first |
|
| QUESTION
( Mar 2005) |
| Has law 15
changed |
| I see
professional and amateur players in some games can
now take throw-ins with only one foot on the ground.. |
| Peter
Soldiersfield |
|
|
|
| FRED'S
ANSWER
|
| The throw-in is yet
another area where the law gets bent slightly and
illegal throws are tolerated or ignored by the
officials. And not just feet problems,
some look to be almost "one-handed" in their
delivery which can be quite an advantage on the"
long throw " |
| It all rests with the
referee ! |
| Are you doing your job
correctly or are you the LAZY or CASUAL type ? |
| The one that the assessors
keep having to mark lower just because of their slack
attitude to the laws and how they apply them on
the field. |
| Come on referees, these
things can influence your future promotion..........it's
up to you ! |
|
| QUESTION
( Feb 2005) |
| Your comments
about players swearing were very interesting but when
Wayne Rooney can use the F word- many many times-as in
Arsenal v Man Utd to Referee Poll and nothing is done
isn't it a bit hypocritical and soft and bullying by
referees on a Sunday morning taking the easy
option to get money for the County F.A. |
| To say players at
local soccer level can be sent off -when nothing is done
in the professional game....I was under the impression
the same laws applied to everyone |
| Apparently not so |
| Also can you
tell me at what level my son needs to reach so he
can swear at the referee and nothing is done......We all
watch TV so don't say it dosen't happen |
| |
| Steve Riding |
| PS I DON'T
AGREE WITH SWEARING ON THE PITCH I AM JUST MAKING A
POINT |
|
| FRED'S
ANSWER
|
| I don't think it's fair
to use your description of the Sunday morning referees |
| They are ( or should
be, if they have taken notice of what we teach them in
class, ) trying to play to the laws and keep the
"language " out of football, but get let
down by some TV footage. |
| Should the producer edit it
out ? should it be used by the FA to enforce
what they send out to referees as advice ? should
the club/ managers be fined ,or docked points for
players offences ? does the "
power " of the league influence the acceptance
level ? ............who knows ? |
| What I can tell you,
for your son, is if he uses " language "
on the field , he could be sent off !! |
| If he uses it AT the
referee, he WILL be sent off, or the referee is not
doing his job !! |
|
| QUESTION
( Jan 2005) |
| Is it OK
for players to have socks down and show shin pads. |
| Is it OK
for goalkeepers have all black kit on. |
| Is it OK
for players to use foul language. |
|
| Peter
Soldiersfield |
|
| FRED'S
ANSWER
|
| Shin pads must be
covered entirely by the stockings , that is the
wording in the LAW 4. The player at fault can be
sent from the field , and may not return without
referees permission, so if the referees do their job
correctly, the players will soon learn to "keep
their socks up " |
| The referees UNIFORM is
defined in the FA instructions as plain black and
goalkeepers must wear colours which differ from all
other players AND THE REFEREE AND
ASSISTANTS, so the goalies should never wear black. (
come on you referees ! makes your job easier if
you do it right) |
| With "language"
LAW 12 is very rigid, although the word foul has been
replaced with offensive / insulting it is still a SEND
OFF and far too much is heard on the field without SOME
ACTION from the official in the middle. I'd like
to see an intermediate stage introduced into the law,
perhaps a "direct free kick" |
| YES I DO MEAN DIRECT
! that would shut a lot up !....
or maybe a few minutes in "the sin bin" |
| for the more indirect
language, perhaps the BLUE card that has been talked
about ???? |
|
| QUESTION
( Dec 2004) |
| As a player
takes a quick throw in he has no team mates to take
it with is he allowed to throw the ball at an opponent
to play it off him? or is this unsporting behaviour |
|
|
Paul |
|
|
|
|
|
|
| FRED'S
ANSWER
|
| There are various ways of
looking at this |
| Firstly the thrower
can't throw the ball AT anybody (could be taken to be
striking offence ) |
| If he throws to an opponent
who is facing him, hoping to play the rebound, or take
the ball from him, that's OK |
| If he throws onto an
opponents back , that's the same as if it were a
member of his own team, and an indirect free kick for
playing the ball twice, as the player whose back he used
has not PLAYED the ball. This could be unsporting
behaviour in the referees opinion |
| It is very difficult to
throw to anyone within a few yards (or even METRES)
without making an illegal throw, and this would
certainly be the case if you tried to throw AT
someone. |
|
| QUESTION
( Nov 2004) |
|
Fred, if a player simulates throwing a
ball at a ref what is the decision. |
| Also, are
referees and assistants at football league told to
step between players who run to the crowd i feel this is
an accident waiting to happen. |
|
|
| Paul |
|
|
|
|
|
| FRED'S
ANSWER
|
| The question leaves no
doubt about what is happening. |
| Simulate means to pretend,
and as the referee can't read minds , the "
action" looks like an "attempt" to throw
the ball AT the referee (not TO him) and this is a
striking offence with the red card /send off result.
I wouldn't like to leave this player on , and risk
others challenging my authority. |
| Officials on the higher
leagues are instructed to be pro-active in
preventing players from going where they could be in
danger when celebrating goals. The
action of going over the hoardings/adverts to the crowd
is a cautionable offence, and should be administered
when the player(s) return to the field. |
| I agree there is an
accident possibility in all these "over the
top" celebrations, and I'm surprised the
"scorer" doesn't surface with a broken arm or
leg from some of the piles of players that occur (far
too often in my opinion) |
|
| QUESTION
( Nov 2004) |
|
Can you tell us why, in Premiership and
Coca-Cola Championship matches, an injured player who is
treated on the field of play, is sometimes asked to
leave the field of play before the game can be
restarted, even though the player is obviously fit
enough to carry on. On other occasions the player is not
asked to leave the field, and the game restarts with him
still on the pitch. |
| Is there a
hard and fast rule as to different
injuries/situations when the player must leave or stay,
before the game can be restarted? |
|
Obviously with the goalkeeper for instance the
player has to remain on the pitch, but outfield players
seem to be treated differently to one another within the
same game, therefore under the same set of officials! |
|
| We look forward
to your reply to this question, which has puzzled us
for a season or three! |
|
| John Hinchliffe
& Brian Wilcox, Thornes Juns |
| (and Leeds United
FC season ticket holders, with not much else to occupy
our minds during the games at Elland Road!) |
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